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Hello,
I'm new to the forum so forgive me if I make a few errors [smile] I'm David, aged 26 and over the last perhaps 6 months I've been having wetting accidents. Naturally I am very embarrassed to admit this. Things have got to a point where I've had to occasionally wear makeshift padded underwear, which I never thought would happen.

Last night for example, I woke up needing to pee urgently. I didn't think I would make it and I was right. Someone else was in the bathroom and I quickly put on padded underwear - within a few minutes, I wet myself. I just wanted to share my experience to help others and appreciate any advice. Thanks.

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Hi David,

I am sorry to hear about your experience with the bladder issues which are of course embarrassing for you but will make you feel very miserable. The bladder is a very sensitive organ and any inflammation or irritation is going to bring on this kind of thing. It will also seem natural to want to drink less because you are scared of urgency but that is not good for the body and kidneys and getting to the root of the problem is the most important thing.

I can't say what is definitely the reason for this happening and also you didn't say if you have received any medical advice about it or been under a doctor. Remember of course that doctors will often only initially look at possible infection and then give antibiotics which is not always the right way as there are many other reasons for an irritable bladder and urgency and wetting. Dip stick testing is pretty useless and even laboratory testing doesn't always pick things up. It would be as well to get a doctor to check things out and talk to you without going straight into antibiotics. Antibiotics damage the vital gut flora (good bacteria)  and other good flora in bladder and urogenital tract as well as elsewhere. When the gut flora are knocked out you can end up with dysbiosis (imbalance of good flora) and get candida (yeast overgrowth) as there are no good bacteria left to control yeasts, fungus etc. It's basically a thrush of the digestive system which will transfer to the bladder. (It is not only women who get thrush - anyone who has had antibiotics of any kind or for any length of time, even short courses, will likely end up with an imbalance.

So perhaps start out by thinking about getting the immune system back on track. Cut out all sugar (very irritating to the bladder and feeds candida, other yeasts etc)  and carbs if you can manage it. It's not easy for men to cut carbs but you can get that energy from eating good fats (i.e. all the fat on meat as it is not the demon it is made out to be - it is what man is meant to be eating). So carbs and sugar out will at least not feed any bad guys in the system. These will include things like fruit juices as well which are packed with sugar, soda, cokes etc.  Then perhaps think about gluten and grain.  Gluten is a major irritant to the gut and to the body as a whole. You may not ever think about gluten because it would not be obvious but so many people have gluten sensitivity nowadays and it can wreck the immune system. It does not mean Coeliac.... very few are true Coeliac but many of the population have NCGS (non-coeliac gluten sensitivity) where the body builds up antibodies against gluten and then as well as attacking the gluten, the antibiodies also go for the tissues, immune system.  Bit complex to explain but worth looking up about this. It is a sort of silent condition really and causes inflammation you would not think of. Also because few doctors recognised gluten sensitivity and put all their testing on only Coeliac so many patients are just missed.

So another good start is to think firstly entirely about diet and what is going into your body. Beer and alcohol are other irritants and beer has yeasts in it which the body can react to.  Allergy and intolerances to foods play a major role in chronic conditions, but diet is rarely investigated by doctors or seen as a whole body irritant.

If you notice any changes by looking at diet, thinking about intolerances, any other things that may be irritating the immune system (heavy metals (coming from metal fillings, vaccinations)  chemicals, any medications, anything toxic basically ) then that is a good start, you may notice even a slight improvement.  Coffee and strong tea can also irritate a sensitive bladder.

Try to eat well, cutting out the above as mentioned, concentrating on a nutrient dense diet... not easy when you are a guy either and expensive but good fats will sustain you and may stop any sugar cravings.  Exercise may help too.

Failing those things, you could have something mechanical going on, so you may need checking out by doctor and hospital there.  Read up as much as you can if you have the internet on natural things for cystitis and irritable bladder, inflammatory bladder. Try not to worry as there must be a reason and trying to get to the root cause of it is the best way instead of just medicating.  Also of course good to be checked out on urine tests and stuff like that.

There is a lot to be done so do not despair. Also have you had a look as their is also a men's forum on COB Forum and it will help to make you feel not alone. These sorts of problems you have are very rarely discussed by men and often seem more of a womens' problem and doctors tend to recognise it far more in females which is not helpful at all because equally men suffer like this.

Hope the above can help in some way.  My son had all kinds of bladder problems from young and is around your age. For years he was tested for Coeliac and told negative and he everything was fine. Was given so many damaging antibiotics which wrecked the gut and made things worse. He certainly is non-coeliac gluten sensitive - even a tiny amount and it causes massive flare ups. Grain of all kinds can also be an irritant.   There's a lot of things you can try so just keep at it but certainly get checked out for anything mechanical (muscle problem etc) if diet does not help.

Sincerely hope things can get better as so few young men get any help or compassion from doctors but getting knowledgeable and thinking outside the box is one of the best ways forward. 
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Hi David,

To see the men's forum on COB Forum here, click on the left hand side  on the Forums page -  " Interstitial Cystitis"  and then on the men's forum further down.
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Hello there Davidsmum. Sorry for delay in reply; I realise I didn't fully explain a few things. I haven't seen a GP about this particular matter, perhaps because of shyness and fear of wetting. I am actually declared overweight for my age and height and my liquid intake consists solely of fizzy juice as I am not keen on water or milk, something which stretches back to childhood.

Thank you for pointing me in the direction of the Men's section. David.

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Fizzy drinks will really irritate the bladder so get rid of them. They contain all sorts of toxic chemicals.  Try drinking water with real lemon juice in it - this will be really alkalanizing as lemon on drinking is acidic but not as it goes through the body. Anything alkaline is good for the bladder.  If you want cold drinks try some herbal teas and just brew them up, bottle them and stick them in the fridge. Or just dunk a herbal or fruit tea in water. There are endless types of lovely flavoured drinks you can make - all natural. 


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