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Hip

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Some years ago I had a pretty constant overactive bladder, that would often see me rushing to find an unobserved corner of the street for a desperate wee, due to intense bladder contractions. 


After several years like this, I made an accidental discovery that the herb Ruta graveolens (common rue) significantly improved my overactive bladder. In fact, even when I stopped taking Ruta graveolens, the improvement this herb made in my overactive bladder symptoms still remained for months.


(I actually was trying this herb for another reason, so this really was an accidental discovery).


I hope this info may be of help to some people here with interstitial cystitis, overactive bladder, and similar. 


I would be very interested to hear if others do get similar good results from taking Ruta graveolens. Note that Ruta graveolens should not be used during pregnancy due to the risk of miscarriage. It is also quite a strong herb, so best not to take too much.


I take Ruta graveolens as a tincture, and take around 2 ml daily; you can also take it as a powder; you may even be able to find this herb in your garden.


For a long time, I did not know why this herb works so well for overactive bladder (at least for me). But recently I can across some technical info about Ruta graveolens, which I think explains why it works. 



Technical Explanation:


I think the reason why this herb Ruta graveolens (common rue)(1) works so well for interstitial cystitis / overactive bladder is because this herb contains a substance called 5-methoxypsoralen that alters potassium channel fucntion in cells(2), and potassium channels are implicated in interstitial cystitis(3).


Links:

1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Rue

2 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662044

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15469394



I hope this helps.


Hip

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Note:

Ruta graveolens is a bit of an obscure herb, so you'll probably have to buy it online.

I suggest buying Ruta graveolens as bulk powder, as it is much cheaper than way:

Ruta graveolens powder (US) http://www.google.com      /search?tbm=shop&q=Ruta+graveolens+powder
Ruta graveolens powder (UK) http://www.google.co.uk   /search?tbm=shop&q=Ruta+graveolens+powder

You can also buy Ruta graveolens in tinctures, but it is best to go for bulk sizes (like ¼ or ½ a liter or more), as smaller size tinctures work out expensive, given that you need to take 2 ml (= 0.07 fluid ounces) or more each day.

Ruta graveolens tincture (US) http://www.google.com   /search?tbm=shop&q=Ruta+graveolens+tincture
Ruta graveolens tincture (UK) http://www.google.co.uk   /search?tbm=shop&q=Ruta+graveolens+tincture

Avoid any homeopathic formulations of Ruta graveolens, as there is no Ruta graveolens whatsoever within such formulations — you might as well drink pure water (which what homeopathic formulations are).


I urge people to try this herb, and then post their findings (good or bad) here. That way, a sort informal scientific trial for this herb can be performed.
zena

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Good Morning,

 

Very pleased to read of your success with Ruta Grav.May I ask what strenght

 

you use and how often do take it

 

Do you use a U.K manufactured pruduct?

 

Are also following a low acid diet?

 

Regards.

 

Zena

Hip

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Hi Zena

I see the links I posted above are not working, but I have edited them now to work. 

You can buy Ruta graveolens tincture in the UK here:


100 ml of  Ruta graveolens tincture costs £6.29 excluding postage.

The dose I take is 2 ml once daily. 

I takes up to a week for the benefits to appear.


DawnCOB

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Please do not leave links on the forum to online shops that we cannot varify.  This is for legal reasons.

I have placed spaces in the links.

If you would like to discuss this further please email. Dawncobf@aol.com

Many thanks

Dawn
SandraB

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Just done a quick search on this herb, and I would be very cautious, especially if you're pregnant.  According to Wikipedia it's used to induce abortions in horses!

Hip

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Yes, rue is a herb that needs to be used with some caution. 

Ruta graveolens is not to be used at all if pregnant.

Though it's not unusual to find a herb which is not advised during pregnancy. See here for others.

As well as it's well known miscarriage potential, this herb can occasionally cause skin irritation in sensitive people (if they are also exposed to lots of sunlight). 


Having said that, I believe a few leaves of this herb are added to salads in Italy. It was also a popular herb with both Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo, as it improves not only eyesight, but also "inner vision", which is useful for artists.

Hip

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I originally took a tincture of Ruta graveolens. With the tincture, you could start at say 2 ml a day, and then work up to higher amounts. 

When I took Ruta intensively, I took 5 ml of tincture, up to 3 times a day.

The dosing for powder will be different. I am not sure exactly, but I would start with a lowish dose, say 500 mg of powder in the morning, on an empty stomach, and see how it goes. The Ruta graveolens tea bags you see for sale have around 500 mg in each bag.

Just take the power on a teaspoon, and swallow with a glass of water (if you don't mind the taste).

You can also make a tea out of it, and drink the tea.

Don't forget to keep an eye out for the side effects.


If everything is fine, try taking 500 mg of powder twice a day. 


See here for info on the side effects to look out for:

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[I'm very interested to read about this herb and have just ordered some on line and am looking forward to trying it and seeing if it helps. I have been on 10mg vesicare for years but have come off it recently. I'm still on the look out for help with OAB - I'm not sure that cutting out all the recommended drinks and foods is the thing for me. Thank you for sharing the info on this herb.]

 


Some years ago I had a pretty constant overactive bladder, that would often see me rushing to find an unobserved corner of the street for a desperate wee, due to intense bladder contractions. 


After several years like this, I made an accidental discovery that the herb Ruta graveolens (common rue) significantly improved my overactive bladder. In fact, even when I stopped taking Ruta graveolens, the improvement this herb made in my overactive bladder symptoms still remained for months.


(I actually was trying this herb for another reason, so this really was an accidental discovery).


I hope this info may be of help to some people here with interstitial cystitis, overactive bladder, and similar. 


I would be very interested to hear if others do get similar good results from taking Ruta graveolens. Note that Ruta graveolens should not be used during pregnancy due to the risk of miscarriage. It is also quite a strong herb, so best not to take too much.


I take Ruta graveolens as a tincture, and take around 2 ml daily; you can also take it as a powder; you may even be able to find this herb in your garden.


For a long time, I did not know why this herb works so well for overactive bladder (at least for me). But recently I can across some technical info about Ruta graveolens, which I think explains why it works. 



Technical Explanation:


I think the reason why this herb Ruta graveolens (common rue)(1) works so well for interstitial cystitis / overactive bladder is because this herb contains a substance called 5-methoxypsoralen that alters potassium channel fucntion in cells(2), and potassium channels are implicated in interstitial cystitis(3).


Links:

1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Rue

2 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662044

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15469394



I hope this helps.


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