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Hello Philly50
Welcome to our forum and hope you will much help and advice.

As you will have read from above posts , it is likely you may have an infection, and would advise you to re contact your doctor.
I found this article on Google that may help.

http://www.doctorshealthpress.com/general-health-articles/leukocytes-in-urine-natural-treatments/

I would also ask you to maybe join BHUK and contact our advice line for help , they will have more information, contacts to assist you.

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Hello Kate
Thank you so much for your reply and I have read the article, most helpful. My urologist has said that because I have 'bladder pain syndrome'it is not unusual to have a rise in leukocytes in my urine and that so long as there are no nitrates (which could suggest an infection) then I do not need to go on antibiotics. I was just hoping to hear from others on this forum who like me, experience these symptoms from time to time and to see if I can gain any further insight into what is going on. I am already a member of 'bladderhealth' and so I thought I would use the forum to write something.
I try to manage my condition without going t often to the doctors as I feel my knowledge and understanding of what is going on is greater, it I went to the doctor saying my bladder felt uncomfortable and my wee was smelly, for sure they would put me on antibiotics but because I test my urnine and know there are no nitrates, I do not want to be put on antibiotics so I am always hesitant to see a doctor unless I know there is a bacterial infection. I think I am just a little bit apprehensive in case my 'symptoms' are being linked to bladder pain syndrome when really something else could be going on that we are missing.

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Hello Philly50

So many manage and know their own bodies , so hope someone will reply soon.
As you say and as article mentioned could be Kidneys or other,.with lots of naturals suggestions.

Do contact our advice line and on a Wednesday we have our Online Nurse available to speak with.am sure you will find much support.

Keep posting and as I said hope soon pops along soon.
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Hello Philly50

So many manage and know their own bodies , so hope someone will reply soon.
As you say and as article mentioned could be Kidneys or other,.with lots of naturals suggestions.

Do contact our advice line and on a Wednesday we have our Online Nurse available to speak with.am sure you will find much support.

Keep posting and as I said hope soon pops along soon.
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Leukocyte Esterase is an enzyme present in most white blood cells (WBCs). Only a few WBCs are normally present in urine. When the number of these WBCs increases significantly, the dip test will become positive. This indicates that there is inflammation/infection in the urinary tract or kidneys and the body is excreting more WBCs to ingest and produce antibodies to destroy any possible pathogens. They also produce antitoxins that neutralise the toxins released by bacteria.

Dipsticks - Research in the last 20 years has shown that whilst they can identify acute infections, it is low growth bacterial infections where they become unreliable. The dipsticks are calibrated to detect white blood cells counts of ≥105 cfu/mL or greater. For patients with low grade, non-acute infections lower than this range the dipstick will report a false negative.One study noted: “The nitrite test performs particularly badly and leukocyte esterase achieved a sensitivity of only 59%”.

Bacteria can also cause the smell of urine to change When an infection occurs anywhere in your urinary tract, bacteria can change the colour and smell of your urine, You may notice a very strong ammonia odour, or it can be slightly sweet or produce a fishy smell.

As Kate has advised there are natural options to try and the following may help:

D Mannose
Oil of Oregano
Grapefruit Seed Extract
Uva Ursi

Always check with a GP or Pharmacist for contra-indications against any existing medications taken (bladder or non-bladder related) before starting natural alternatives. Natural antimicrobials are as strong as antibiotics and dosage, administration and management should be under the care of an appropriate qualified professional before commencing any alternative treatments. The last 3 will affect gut flora as well so you need to repopulate the gut with a good high dose (many billions) probiotic.


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